I don't fully agree with some of the points made in this article. I am the oldest child and I don't find myself to be very driven. I don't think my younger sister is trying to be like me or be better than me. But I can agree with the first child being the child that you make mistakes on. I haven't liked vegetables as far as I can remember, but my sister does. That's something that I think my parents wanted to "fix" with her that they messed up on with me. Birth order doesn't always apply to every situation. Like the article says, no two people grow up alike.
i don't think that there really is a birth order because all of my mothers children have learned to walk and talk around the same age and they are all smart and athletic. the only thing was she had a problem potty training the two youngest which were girl because they got some much attention and they liked to play alot that they just like to wet there pants becuase they didn't wanna stop what they were doing to use the bathroom but they learned and all her kids are learning well in school. the 3 oldest boys started to act up when it got to high school though because since they were boys they thought that they didn't have to listen so they did what they wanted and got away with it. but most of the time we all accomplished most things around the same time as the other.
I think birth order is what the parents make of their children. If a parent treats one child different from another because they are older/younger then it is human nature for the other children to compete for their attention. I've never really had to deal with that because my mom doesn't treat me that way. I don't really get compared to my little brother. My mother treats me like an individual because that's what I am. If my brother and I are compared, it is usually to other children because my mother feels as though we are better behaved or smarter or whatever the case may be. Now my little brother isn't very competitive in my opinion and neither am I. We kinda just get by with what we have.
After reading this article, I don’t agree with everything that was said. Now me, I'm the only child; so I can’t relate, but after yesterday's lesson the older siblings don’t seem driven to me. Now every child that is born have their own unique way of life, they don’t have to be just alike. Birth Order doesn't affect the way the youngest child will learn how to speak; it’s all a matter of time, and what rate they develop at.
his article has some good points but i could use some more information before i believe it totally. In my opinion on the younger having fewer IQ points i find true my IQ is not far ahead of my brothers but their is some differrence in many places he also has a minor speech issue in which his loving parents want to cure. It is not a disease idiots it is your fualt. Anyway on that point we were born three years apart and they are right he is always trying to outdo me and he has one advantage over me he can see like an average sighted person where as i cant. All the same i still beat him lol but not the point i am competitive and he is even more so so that is another point i agree with. But yet again more evidence is needed for other points such as the hard working parts and acedemic sucess. I am acedemically strong where my brother is weak he hates school overall.
Well I don't really think that this article is fully correct. I am the oldest and I have two younger brothers so with us there's a baby, a middle, and an oldest child. The only reason I would say that I was spoiled more is because I'm the only girl. I always got to do things my brothers couldn't do but of course me being the oldest plays a role and that because I was more mature and responsible. I also see a lot of competition among the three of us because my mom would always tell people how good I was doing and my brothers I believe want that too. My second to youngest brother goes to my school now and I do believe that he's trying to follow my foot steps because he seems to do a lot of the things that I did along the way but my youngest brother is doing good but he's on a completely different path. He also though wants to do good so that he could be bragged about and I think he follows in my other brothers footsteps. It's like we're all following along eachother.
to me birth order is basically showin favorites. however, i think that is some form of attatchement. for example, when you have your first child, you give them everything, they get all of the attention, and you love them terribly. you become attatched to them because they were your first born. then when the second one is born you have to give them that attention that they need, but you are still attatched to the first one. that is psychological, and i'm sure it is hard to get rid of. so finally, when the last one is born you try to show them the most attention so they won't feel un loved, snad you forget about the second one, but still have that attatchment for the first one. it might not happen in all families. however, i think that is the process on which birth order stands on. so when this process takes place, that's when the saying 'i am treated like a middle child comes in. i agreed with most of the statements in the article, because that is not the first time i heard or read something like it. the first born always seems to have different and strong qualities, and when the youngest child begins to take after the oldest the parents will see it as...oh you're trying to be like your brother/sister. sometimes forgetting that they indeed have a mind of their own.
The article points out a lot Birth Order points, the main one they bring up is speech. And how parents might notice that the younger takes longer to develope speaking. They also pointed out that competitions between siblings tend to continue throughout their life. Parents also try to do better the second time by correcting the mistakes they made with the first child.
my understanding of birth order is different from the article, all though it touches some very good points about the way parents view their children every family is different. you dont have to be the oldest child or the middle child to be driven,but it does motivate you more to have someone to look up to and some to impress,someone that will be proud of you and push you to do even better and thats what siblings do, older or younger.i do agree that having older and younger siblings helps us relate to others of different ages. most siblings do not try and be better then there older siblings unless they've really messed up there life, because being better is a competition and siblings should work to together inorder to help one another succeed.
I must say that in some cases of Birth Order that it does not comply at all, if I were to say the truth between me and my siblings (my mother's children) that it is completely backwards. It descended not from the oldest but the youngest. I am the scholar and the one who won competitions and smarter. Then my brother who did not do what I did, but he wasn't as dumb as my sister, who has neither intelligence nor a drive to be successful. So I guess it's on how you are trained because I was raised in a different environment then they and came out completely different. So Birth Order in my case is completely different.
I can agree with a lot of points made in this article. I have a little sister and I am the oldest. So I know that she looks up to me. But she is not more competitive than me, she be competitive to her friends though. But about the speech delay I don't agree with that. Because my sister start talking at a young age and she never shuts up. I talked a lot when I was young to but my little sister talks a whole damn bunch. I also think my little sister gets more attention than I do. But I get more privileges than her. But the rest of the article I agree with.
i agree with some points but i disagree with alot. i dont think that my younger sister wanted to be like me with have two different personalities. when we were little my mom said it was way easier for her to be potty train and learning to walk and talk because she always wanted to be a b ig girl but now we are two different people. now my youngest sister since she is the baby alot more is expected ffrom her because my mom brought us up right so she makes her learn things faster and teaches her more and she learns way faster than we did because she wants to be a big girls so bad.
I don't think birth order has anything to do with the persoanlities of children. If what he says was true, then my older sister would be the one that goes to SciTech, gets the good grades, and is good at a sport.I am not driven to be like her because i'm better than her.Conceited,yes;harsh, no. Birth order has nothing to do with children, their temperaments could be the reason for why each child acts the way he/she does. My older sister(18) dropped out of school her junior year(we were in the same grade) and now she's pregnant in Mississippi. Me(17), i keep good grades and run track for the Cougars. My little sister(15), she's kind of like my older sister, but the only difference is that she is still in school and she does bandfront. So as you can see birth order doesn't really matter. The temperament of the child has more of an affect on who that child grows to be
Before I read this article I thought that birth order made a lot of sense. After reading this article I was informed that birth order may have absolutely no effect on a persons personality. Other influences such as gender and birth spacing. The article said that there are some families where the youngest child is brighter and some families where the oldest child is brighter. There was also an example in the article that talked about a family's youngest child, who was said to have a speech delay. The parents blamed this problem on the Birth Order when in reality the young boy was perfectly normal. I originally thought that birth order made up ones personality, but now I see that other influences can add an effect as well.
I don't entirely agree with this article, yes it brings some good points but overall it's nonsense to me. I am the oldest child in my family and i am not driven to sucede in the way that the article states. Also i know for a fact that my younger sister is not at all trying to be like me. She wants to make her own way. This article makes it seem like every oldest child is the smartest one and the middle child wants to be like the oldest one and then the youngest child is just stupid. Every family is different and they have their own talents and strengths, and then their own weaknesses. I also don't think the oldest child has to be smart just so that their younger siblings can sucede! Siblings should learn to work together ... not compete for their parents and others peoples attention.
Some things in this article I can relate to, and other things, I don't agree with it. The article said that the second child is driven to be better than the first born, well, not in my case. Being like my older sister is probably the last thing I'd ever want to do. It's not like her life is bad, she has a wonderful life. Graduating as valedictorian of her class in high school, then going off to the University of Pennsylvania, and now she's becoming a doctor. It's just that it doesn't fit me. I'm less of an over achiever than her and not to mention, lazy. So I disagree with the article when it says that the second child is more of an over achiever. But I do agree with the whole thing about parents not trying to make the same mistake they did with their second child as they did with their first born. They try to make everything perfect the second time it comes around.
Ronald Silver This article is talking about Adler’s idea that birth order effect the way you act and your family dynamic. There is one quote I really like about this article and it is when Dr. Sulloway said. “Child and family dynamics is like a chessboard; birth order is like a knight.” This is a great simile for what I think about the way birth order works. I think it is a contributing factor but it is not the main factor. But birth order is important because after we learned about it yesterday I examined my own family dynamic and for the most part Adler’s theory checked out. But then I asked my parents about their families and how their family birth order effected their family dynamic and them as an individual. Wouldn’t you know it, Adler’s theory checked out again.
im the oldest sibling and i have a little brother. he's somewhat like the little boy in the article. but i dont think he's as driven as they say younger ones are. i do tend to boss my brother around a lot and he does get all the attention because he's the baby. i don't think i remember seeing or hearing my parents learning from "my mistakes" and doing it the right way when my little brother was born. i think it's because there's a pretty big age difference. sometimes i think my brother has problems but he's only a kid and i only have one little brother so i guess it's natural that i think he's weird.
Between me and the article’s author we have very different understandings about birth order is some ways but not all. The article said that the oldest child was very smart, driven, and well behaved in school. It also said that since the family had only one boy, that he was treated better. Well in my condition the oldest child in my household growing up did not fit the same description as what the article said. The oldest child which was my brother was very lazy when it came to academics and a trouble maker. He was also the only boy in the house but he did not receive any type of extra attention. The article also talked about how the younger children always looked up the oldest child. Well there was a time when I did look up to my older sister not the oldest one though. She was the middle child, and was very smart like the sister in front of her. But since me and the middle child were closer in age, I often looked up to her all the time; until I got older. I also do not agree on the way you were born is the way you are gifted in academics. Every person is gifted in academic to me, but the road they choose to walk on in school determines their outcome.
Well from our understanding of the birth order thing from yesterday, we noticed that the oldest child usually starts off as the “golden child” and gets more attention by family members than what they actually possibly want. It also says that children who are born after a sibling, are more driven and determined at learning or doing things an older one might be able to do. We also stated yesterday that the oldest child is generally the “test child” so that when the second comes around there will be no mistakes to make.
I don't agree totally with the article, but it makes sense. My understanding of birth order comes from my own experhience as the oldest child. I work hard, and my grades usually better than my younger sisters. When they talk about bullying the younger siblings, I agree because I bullyed my younger sister when we were little and she bullyed the two yonger ones. All of them listens to me because I set my self as authority and they know it, so they usually listen to me when I tell them to do something or act a certain way. The attention thing I sort of agree with, but in my situation I as the oldest got the attention but it was based on responsibilty. Everything the younger ones did I got in trouble for and my mom always made me prove myself because I was the oldest and I needed to set and example for the younger ones .
I don't really agree with this article that much. I mean, to some degree being the oldest can change your personality. But at the same time, it may not. It all depends on how your parents raise you. Now, you will probably be different from your younger brother or sister because your parents are going to learn from mistakes they may have made from you or someone else. I'm an elder child myself so I don't want to be biased about this, but even though they may be different from their brothers, it all depends on how your parents raise you. And as far as the oldest being the smartest, it could just be that the parents were stricter about it then, but when the next child came they were more leniant or anything like that.
I don't fully agree with some of the points made in this article. I am the oldest child and I don't find myself to be very driven. I don't think my younger sister is trying to be like me or be better than me. But I can agree with the first child being the child that you make mistakes on. I haven't liked vegetables as far as I can remember, but my sister does. That's something that I think my parents wanted to "fix" with her that they messed up on with me. Birth order doesn't always apply to every situation. Like the article says, no two people grow up alike.
ReplyDeletei don't think that there really is a birth order because all of my mothers children have learned to walk and talk around the same age and they are all smart and athletic. the only thing was she had a problem potty training the two youngest which were girl because they got some much attention and they liked to play alot that they just like to wet there pants becuase they didn't wanna stop what they were doing to use the bathroom but they learned and all her kids are learning well in school. the 3 oldest boys started to act up when it got to high school though because since they were boys they thought that they didn't have to listen so they did what they wanted and got away with it. but most of the time we all accomplished most things around the same time as the other.
ReplyDeleteI think birth order is what the parents make of their children. If a parent treats one child different from another because they are older/younger then it is human nature for the other children to compete for their attention. I've never really had to deal with that because my mom doesn't treat me that way. I don't really get compared to my little brother. My mother treats me like an individual because that's what I am. If my brother and I are compared, it is usually to other children because my mother feels as though we are better behaved or smarter or whatever the case may be. Now my little brother isn't very competitive in my opinion and neither am I. We kinda just get by with what we have.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this article, I don’t agree with everything that was said. Now me, I'm the only child; so I can’t relate, but after yesterday's lesson the older siblings don’t seem driven to me. Now every child that is born have their own unique way of life, they don’t have to be just alike. Birth Order doesn't affect the way the youngest child will learn how to speak; it’s all a matter of time, and what rate they develop at.
ReplyDeletehis article has some good points but i could use some more information before i believe it totally. In my opinion on the younger having fewer IQ points i find true my IQ is not far ahead of my brothers but their is some differrence in many places he also has a minor speech issue in which his loving parents want to cure. It is not a disease idiots it is your fualt. Anyway on that point we were born three years apart and they are right he is always trying to outdo me and he has one advantage over me he can see like an average sighted person where as i cant. All the same i still beat him lol but not the point i am competitive and he is even more so so that is another point i agree with. But yet again more evidence is needed for other points such as the hard working parts and acedemic sucess. I am acedemically strong where my brother is weak he hates school overall.
ReplyDeleteWell I don't really think that this article is fully correct. I am the oldest and I have two younger brothers so with us there's a baby, a middle, and an oldest child. The only reason I would say that I was spoiled more is because I'm the only girl. I always got to do things my brothers couldn't do but of course me being the oldest plays a role and that because I was more mature and responsible. I also see a lot of competition among the three of us because my mom would always tell people how good I was doing and my brothers I believe want that too. My second to youngest brother goes to my school now and I do believe that he's trying to follow my foot steps because he seems to do a lot of the things that I did along the way but my youngest brother is doing good but he's on a completely different path. He also though wants to do good so that he could be bragged about and I think he follows in my other brothers footsteps. It's like we're all following along eachother.
ReplyDeleteto me birth order is basically showin favorites. however, i think that is some form of attatchement. for example, when you have your first child, you give them everything, they get all of the attention, and you love them terribly. you become attatched to them because they were your first born. then when the second one is born you have to give them that attention that they need, but you are still attatched to the first one. that is psychological, and i'm sure it is hard to get rid of. so finally, when the last one is born you try to show them the most attention so they won't feel un loved, snad you forget about the second one, but still have that attatchment for the first one. it might not happen in all families. however, i think that is the process on which birth order stands on. so when this process takes place, that's when the saying 'i am treated like a middle child comes in. i agreed with most of the statements in the article, because that is not the first time i heard or read something like it. the first born always seems to have different and strong qualities, and when the youngest child begins to take after the oldest the parents will see it as...oh you're trying to be like your brother/sister. sometimes forgetting that they indeed have a mind of their own.
ReplyDeleteThe article points out a lot Birth Order points, the main one they bring up is speech. And how parents might notice that the younger takes longer to develope speaking. They also pointed out that competitions between siblings tend to continue throughout their life. Parents also try to do better the second time by correcting the mistakes they made with the first child.
ReplyDeletemy understanding of birth order is different from the article, all though it touches some very good points about the way parents view their children every family is different. you dont have to be the oldest child or the middle child to be driven,but it does motivate you more to have someone to look up to and some to impress,someone that will be proud of you and push you to do even better and thats what siblings do, older or younger.i do agree that having older and younger siblings helps us relate to others of different ages. most siblings do not try and be better then there older siblings unless they've really messed up there life, because being better is a competition and siblings should work to together inorder to help one another succeed.
ReplyDeleteI must say that in some cases of Birth Order that it does not comply at all, if I were to say the truth between me and my siblings (my mother's children) that it is completely backwards. It descended not from the oldest but the youngest. I am the scholar and the one who won competitions and smarter. Then my brother who did not do what I did, but he wasn't as dumb as my sister, who has neither intelligence nor a drive to be successful. So I guess it's on how you are trained because I was raised in a different environment then they and came out completely different. So Birth Order in my case is completely different.
ReplyDeleteI can agree with a lot of points made in this article. I have a little sister and I am the oldest. So I know that she looks up to me. But she is not more competitive than me, she be competitive to her friends though. But about the speech delay I don't agree with that. Because my sister start talking at a young age and she never shuts up. I talked a lot when I was young to but my little sister talks a whole damn bunch. I also think my little sister gets more attention than I do. But I get more privileges than her. But the rest of the article I agree with.
ReplyDeletei agree with some points but i disagree with alot. i dont think that my younger sister wanted to be like me with have two different personalities. when we were little my mom said it was way easier for her to be potty train and learning to walk and talk because she always wanted to be a b ig girl but now we are two different people. now my youngest sister since she is the baby alot more is expected ffrom her because my mom brought us up right so she makes her learn things faster and teaches her more and she learns way faster than we did because she wants to be a big girls so bad.
ReplyDeleteI don't think birth order has anything to do with the persoanlities of children. If what he says was true, then my older sister would be the one that goes to SciTech, gets the good grades, and is good at a sport.I am not driven to be like her because i'm better than her.Conceited,yes;harsh, no. Birth order has nothing to do with children, their temperaments could be the reason for why each child acts the way he/she does. My older sister(18) dropped out of school her junior year(we were in the same grade) and now she's pregnant in Mississippi. Me(17), i keep good grades and run track for the Cougars. My little sister(15), she's kind of like my older sister, but the only difference is that she is still in school and she does bandfront. So as you can see birth order doesn't really matter. The temperament of the child has more of an affect on who that child grows to be
ReplyDeleteBefore I read this article I thought that birth order made a lot of sense. After reading this article I was informed that birth order may have absolutely no effect on a persons personality. Other influences such as gender and birth spacing. The article said that there are some families where the youngest child is brighter and some families where the oldest child is brighter. There was also an example in the article that talked about a family's youngest child, who was said to have a speech delay. The parents blamed this problem on the Birth Order when in reality the young boy was perfectly normal. I originally thought that birth order made up ones personality, but now I see that other influences can add an effect as well.
ReplyDeleteI don't entirely agree with this article, yes it brings some good points but overall it's nonsense to me. I am the oldest child in my family and i am not driven to sucede in the way that the article states. Also i know for a fact that my younger sister is not at all trying to be like me. She wants to make her own way. This article makes it seem like every oldest child is the smartest one and the middle child wants to be like the oldest one and then the youngest child is just stupid. Every family is different and they have their own talents and strengths, and then their own weaknesses. I also don't think the oldest child has to be smart just so that their younger siblings can sucede! Siblings should learn to work together ... not compete for their parents and others peoples attention.
ReplyDeleteSome things in this article I can relate to, and other things, I don't agree with it. The article said that the second child is driven to be better than the first born, well, not in my case. Being like my older sister is probably the last thing I'd ever want to do. It's not like her life is bad, she has a wonderful life. Graduating as valedictorian of her class in high school, then going off to the University of Pennsylvania, and now she's becoming a doctor. It's just that it doesn't fit me. I'm less of an over achiever than her and not to mention, lazy. So I disagree with the article when it says that the second child is more of an over achiever. But I do agree with the whole thing about parents not trying to make the same mistake they did with their second child as they did with their first born. They try to make everything perfect the second time it comes around.
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ReplyDeleteThis article is talking about Adler’s idea that birth order effect the way you act and your family dynamic. There is one quote I really like about this article and it is when Dr. Sulloway said. “Child and family dynamics is like a chessboard; birth order is like a knight.” This is a great simile for what I think about the way birth order works. I think it is a contributing factor but it is not the main factor. But birth order is important because after we learned about it yesterday I examined my own family dynamic and for the most part Adler’s theory checked out. But then I asked my parents about their families and how their family birth order effected their family dynamic and them as an individual. Wouldn’t you know it, Adler’s theory checked out again.
im the oldest sibling and i have a little brother. he's somewhat like the little boy in the article. but i dont think he's as driven as they say younger ones are. i do tend to boss my brother around a lot and he does get all the attention because he's the baby. i don't think i remember seeing or hearing my parents learning from "my mistakes" and doing it the right way when my little brother was born. i think it's because there's a pretty big age difference. sometimes i think my brother has problems but he's only a kid and i only have one little brother so i guess it's natural that i think he's weird.
ReplyDeleteBetween me and the article’s author we have very different understandings about birth order is some ways but not all. The article said that the oldest child was very smart, driven, and well behaved in school. It also said that since the family had only one boy, that he was treated better. Well in my condition the oldest child in my household growing up did not fit the same description as what the article said. The oldest child which was my brother was very lazy when it came to academics and a trouble maker. He was also the only boy in the house but he did not receive any type of extra attention. The article also talked about how the younger children always looked up the oldest child. Well there was a time when I did look up to my older sister not the oldest one though. She was the middle child, and was very smart like the sister in front of her. But since me and the middle child were closer in age, I often looked up to her all the time; until I got older. I also do not agree on the way you were born is the way you are gifted in academics. Every person is gifted in academic to me, but the road they choose to walk on in school determines their outcome.
ReplyDeleteWell from our understanding of the birth order thing from yesterday, we noticed that the oldest child usually starts off as the “golden child” and gets more attention by family members than what they actually possibly want. It also says that children who are born after a sibling, are more driven and determined at learning or doing things an older one might be able to do. We also stated yesterday that the oldest child is generally the “test child” so that when the second comes around there will be no mistakes to make.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree totally with the article, but it makes sense. My understanding of birth order comes from my own experhience as the oldest child. I work hard, and my grades usually better than my younger sisters. When they talk about bullying the younger siblings, I agree because I bullyed my younger sister when we were little and she bullyed the two yonger ones. All of them listens to me because I set my self as authority and they know it, so they usually listen to me when I tell them to do something or act a certain way. The attention thing I sort of agree with, but in my situation I as the oldest got the attention but it was based on responsibilty. Everything the younger ones did I got in trouble for and my mom always made me prove myself because I was the oldest and I needed to set and example for the younger ones .
ReplyDeleteI don't really agree with this article that much. I mean, to some degree being the oldest can change your personality. But at the same time, it may not. It all depends on how your parents raise you. Now, you will probably be different from your younger brother or sister because your parents are going to learn from mistakes they may have made from you or someone else. I'm an elder child myself so I don't want to be biased about this, but even though they may be different from their brothers, it all depends on how your parents raise you. And as far as the oldest being the smartest, it could just be that the parents were stricter about it then, but when the next child came they were more leniant or anything like that.
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